Comments for EcoLocalizer http://ecolocalizer.com News & commentary on sustainability, activism, urban planning, politics, and our world. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:32:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on #6 Groningen, Netherlands: Great Bicycle City Photo Tour by Dutch Kids Ride Bicycle-Bus to School! | Planetsave http://ecolocalizer.com/2009/10/30/6-groningen-netherlands-great-bicycle-city-photo-tour/comment-page-1/#comment-281765 Dutch Kids Ride Bicycle-Bus to School! | Planetsave Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:32:13 +0000 http://ecoworldly.com/?p=4523#comment-281765 [...] A bicycle bus! I have to admit, I didn’t see one of these when I lived in the Netherlands! (For a bunch of photos of the cool things I did see, however, check out this bicycle photo tour of Groningen.) [...] [...] A bicycle bus! I have to admit, I didn’t see one of these when I lived in the Netherlands! (For a bunch of photos of the cool things I did see, however, check out this bicycle photo tour of Groningen.) [...]

]]> Comment on Private Bradley Manning Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize by The Civic Guards http://ecolocalizer.com/2012/02/04/private-bradley-manning-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/comment-page-1/#comment-281764 The Civic Guards Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:54:43 +0000 http://ecolocalizer.com/?p=23141#comment-281764 Your argument is fundamentally punctured by virtue of what Manning actually did. The information within the WikiLeaks cables provided by Manning were a vast cache of diplomatic and intelligence cables. This information ranged between the assessment of foreign governments by US foreign service officers to the FULL NAMES of Afghan informants and intelligence sources aiding US and NATO forces in the region. I will not attempt to to troll into an argument over the justice of US actions, we are talking about Bradley Manning. First, Manning deliberately leaked this information to a third party and in so doing exposed the informants and intelligence sources within Afghanistan. There is little doubt that this act will place (and may have already placed) lives in danger, both Afghan, American, and our allies in NATO. Secondly, the flaw of your defense for PVT Manning boils down to the nature of what he is: an enlisted soldier in the United States Army. Manning, like all other soldiers, swore an oath to the Constitution and made the choice to wear the uniform of this country. For whatever reason, his actions blatantly betrayed that oath and this country. I mentioned in my previous post that this is not the Pentagon Papers, and for good reason. Daniel Ellsberg was a civilian contractor for DoD and not a uniformed soldier. More importantly, the Pentagon Papers proved the government was lying to the public about VietNam, most directly in the Gulf of Tonken incident. The WikiLeaks cables do not demonstrate a systemic lie from the US government, it shows the government has been doing its job. Foreign service operators gathering intelligence and utilizing Afghan informants are the expected actions of a country at war and nearly all of this was reported on in varying degrees by the press prior to the WikiLeaks cables. The only "dark" info released was the names of the Afghan informants, which Manning provided. If you are motivated, like Julian Assange, to bring down the United States by any means, then congratulations- Manning should be your hero, because he harmed this country in a direct manner. But don't cry foul when you lose a battle against this Republic, as Manning did. He made 2 choices- first to join the US Army and second to betray it. Getting caught was not his choice, but he will bear the consequences of his treason and earn the punishment as an enemy of the United States. Your argument is fundamentally punctured by virtue of what Manning actually did. The information within the WikiLeaks cables provided by Manning were a vast cache of diplomatic and intelligence cables. This information ranged between the assessment of foreign governments by US foreign service officers to the FULL NAMES of Afghan informants and intelligence sources aiding US and NATO forces in the region. I will not attempt to to troll into an argument over the justice of US actions, we are talking about Bradley Manning. First, Manning deliberately leaked this information to a third party and in so doing exposed the informants and intelligence sources within Afghanistan. There is little doubt that this act will place (and may have already placed) lives in danger, both Afghan, American, and our allies in NATO. Secondly, the flaw of your defense for PVT Manning boils down to the nature of what he is: an enlisted soldier in the United States Army. Manning, like all other soldiers, swore an oath to the Constitution and made the choice to wear the uniform of this country. For whatever reason, his actions blatantly betrayed that oath and this country. I mentioned in my previous post that this is not the Pentagon Papers, and for good reason. Daniel Ellsberg was a civilian contractor for DoD and not a uniformed soldier. More importantly, the Pentagon Papers proved the government was lying to the public about VietNam, most directly in the Gulf of Tonken incident. The WikiLeaks cables do not demonstrate a systemic lie from the US government, it shows the government has been doing its job. Foreign service operators gathering intelligence and utilizing Afghan informants are the expected actions of a country at war and nearly all of this was reported on in varying degrees by the press prior to the WikiLeaks cables. The only “dark” info released was the names of the Afghan informants, which Manning provided. If you are motivated, like Julian Assange, to bring down the United States by any means, then congratulations- Manning should be your hero, because he harmed this country in a direct manner. But don’t cry foul when you lose a battle against this Republic, as Manning did. He made 2 choices- first to join the US Army and second to betray it. Getting caught was not his choice, but he will bear the consequences of his treason and earn the punishment as an enemy of the United States.

]]> Comment on Private Bradley Manning Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize by Bob McDermand http://ecolocalizer.com/2012/02/04/private-bradley-manning-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/comment-page-1/#comment-281762 Bob McDermand Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:49:01 +0000 http://ecolocalizer.com/?p=23141#comment-281762 Absolutly! If you want to read more about the military mindset and the Kennedy assasination Read James R Douglass's book JKF and the unspeakable. Good insight on the inteligence/military's community's involvement with the conspiracy. I find it fascinating that the military is worried about crucifying this kid and not worried about the war crimes he unearthed. Absolutly!
If you want to read more about the military mindset and the Kennedy assasination
Read James R Douglass’s book JKF and the unspeakable. Good insight on the inteligence/military’s community’s involvement with the conspiracy. I find it fascinating that the military is worried about crucifying this kid and not worried about the war crimes he unearthed.

]]> Comment on Private Bradley Manning Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize by Robert Navan http://ecolocalizer.com/2012/02/04/private-bradley-manning-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/comment-page-1/#comment-281742 Robert Navan Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:09:33 +0000 http://ecolocalizer.com/?p=23141#comment-281742 One of the lines running through the arguments against what Bradley Manning did, is that he is a traitor for revealing army secrets. At what stage of evil should a person decide that he/she has a duty to try to stop it? One of the contributors mentions that he had served in Iraq but what for? In the 50 or so years that I've been following world events the US has been involved in places such as ;- Chile,Nicaragua,ElSalvador,Venezuela,Vietnam,Cambodia,Libya,Iraq,Haiti,Afghanistan and Cuba. This is not even a definite list but I think it goes without saying that none of these places were improved by the US campaigns. In fact, most of them suffered huge damage, many bombed back into the Dark Ages and hundreds of thousands of lives have been lost and I ask what for? In the meantime the US has millions of it's own citizens living below the poverty line. I think more whistle blowers are needed. One of the lines running through the arguments against what Bradley Manning did, is that he is a traitor for revealing army secrets. At what stage of evil should a person decide that he/she has a duty to try to stop it? One of the contributors mentions that he had served in Iraq but what for? In the 50 or so years that I’ve been following world events the US has been involved in places such as ;- Chile,Nicaragua,ElSalvador,Venezuela,Vietnam,Cambodia,Libya,Iraq,Haiti,Afghanistan and Cuba. This is not even a definite list but I think it goes without saying that none of these places were improved by the US campaigns. In fact, most of them suffered huge damage, many bombed back into the Dark Ages and hundreds of thousands of lives have been lost and I ask what for? In the meantime the US has millions of it’s own citizens living below the poverty line. I think more whistle blowers are needed.

]]> Comment on Private Bradley Manning Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize by Marcos http://ecolocalizer.com/2012/02/04/private-bradley-manning-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/comment-page-1/#comment-281737 Marcos Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:06:56 +0000 http://ecolocalizer.com/?p=23141#comment-281737 It hasn't been credible for a long time - even Kissenger has it! Manning might just bring a bit of prestige to it. It hasn’t been credible for a long time – even Kissenger has it! Manning might just bring a bit of prestige to it.

]]> Comment on 15 Things I Loved about Living & Bicycling in Groningen (the Netherlands) +25 Pictures by Zach http://ecolocalizer.com/2011/06/05/15-things-i-loved-about-living-bicycling-in-groningen-the-netherlands-25-pictures/comment-page-1/#comment-281735 Zach Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:16:17 +0000 http://ecolocalizer.com/?p=21280#comment-281735 Thanks! What did you have in mind? Thanks! What did you have in mind?

]]> Comment on Private Bradley Manning Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize by Rhonda Winter http://ecolocalizer.com/2012/02/04/private-bradley-manning-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/comment-page-1/#comment-281734 Rhonda Winter Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:14:49 +0000 http://ecolocalizer.com/?p=23141#comment-281734 I had the exact same reaction. I had the exact same reaction.

]]> Comment on Private Bradley Manning Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize by Becky Striepe http://ecolocalizer.com/2012/02/04/private-bradley-manning-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/comment-page-1/#comment-281731 Becky Striepe Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:39:58 +0000 http://ecolocalizer.com/?p=23141#comment-281731 Rhonda, I swear to you that when I read this headline, I said the words, "Fuck yeah!" Out loud. To an empty room. Rhonda, I swear to you that when I read this headline, I said the words, “Fuck yeah!” Out loud. To an empty room.

]]> Comment on 15 Things I Loved about Living & Bicycling in Groningen (the Netherlands) +25 Pictures by Johan Lewin http://ecolocalizer.com/2011/06/05/15-things-i-loved-about-living-bicycling-in-groningen-the-netherlands-25-pictures/comment-page-1/#comment-281724 Johan Lewin Thu, 09 Feb 2012 10:15:27 +0000 http://ecolocalizer.com/?p=21280#comment-281724 Hi Mr . Zach, Very Inspirational would like to communicate with you and commend you on your great achievements and wonderful works -hope we can look at some kind of collaberation with each other keep up with the great works Johan and team Hi Mr . Zach,

Very Inspirational would like to communicate with you and commend you on your great achievements and wonderful works -hope we can look at some kind of collaberation with each other
keep up with the great works
Johan and team

]]> Comment on Private Bradley Manning Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize by Steve http://ecolocalizer.com/2012/02/04/private-bradley-manning-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/comment-page-1/#comment-281710 Steve Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:22:44 +0000 http://ecolocalizer.com/?p=23141#comment-281710 He will be released!! In about 150 years:) He will be released!! In about 150 years:)

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