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	<title>Comments on: Winner of 2009 Rubber Dodo Award is Land Speculator Michael Winer</title>
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		<title>By: Frank Benjamin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Those that can have to do for those who cannot. If a human can keep another human from wiping out a beneficial species, he should.&quot; ... Oh please...now I want to just cry for your bleeding heart.

Sorry, I do not have real estate investments.  I am simply mad as hell because there seem to be so many people from which the CBD has taken money that could have gone to other environmental organizations that have more mainstream agendas.

Come on folks!  It&#039;s very easy for the CBD to say that they want all 270,000 acres of Tejon Ranch preserved as a national park.  BUT WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR THAT?  This is still the United States of America, and the last time I checked, Tejon Ranch owns it&#039;s land.  IT&#039;S CALLED PRIVATE PROPERTY!!!.  If the government or conservation groups don&#039;t want to allow the limited development that Tejon Ranch is proposing (with the blessing of the &quot;mainstream enviro groups), then SOMEONE HAS TO BUY IT.

It&#039;s very easy to take an unreasonable position, but then you have to ultimately back it up with science or CASH.  The CBD doesn&#039;t seem to have either one.  They are outnumbered, outflanked, outsmarted, out financed and OUT OF TOUCH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Those that can have to do for those who cannot. If a human can keep another human from wiping out a beneficial species, he should.&#8221; &#8230; Oh please&#8230;now I want to just cry for your bleeding heart.</p>
<p>Sorry, I do not have real estate investments.  I am simply mad as hell because there seem to be so many people from which the CBD has taken money that could have gone to other environmental organizations that have more mainstream agendas.</p>
<p>Come on folks!  It&#8217;s very easy for the CBD to say that they want all 270,000 acres of Tejon Ranch preserved as a national park.  BUT WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR THAT?  This is still the United States of America, and the last time I checked, Tejon Ranch owns it&#8217;s land.  IT&#8217;S CALLED PRIVATE PROPERTY!!!.  If the government or conservation groups don&#8217;t want to allow the limited development that Tejon Ranch is proposing (with the blessing of the &#8220;mainstream enviro groups), then SOMEONE HAS TO BUY IT.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very easy to take an unreasonable position, but then you have to ultimately back it up with science or CASH.  The CBD doesn&#8217;t seem to have either one.  They are outnumbered, outflanked, outsmarted, out financed and OUT OF TOUCH.</p>
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		<title>By: webkinz games</title>
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		<dc:creator>webkinz games</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is that an actual trophy?  or just a photoshop mockup?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is that an actual trophy?  or just a photoshop mockup?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ignore Frank, Puneet. He&#039;s missed the point. Those that can have to do for those who cannot. If a human can keep another human from wiping out a beneficial species, he should. Frank probably has real estate investments and is so short-sighted that he doesn&#039;t see the benefits of having big, ugly birds in his subdivision. I bet he thought the Gulf War was a good idea, too. Maybe he should drop some acid. It MIGHT open his eyes, but I doubt it. Who cares where the Center for Bio Diversity came from, the message is sound. Don&#039;t kill off an endangered species because you feel it&#039;s your manifest destiny to do so. I GOT IT - ask a native American what he feels we should do with his land. Wait, there aren&#039;t any more of them. Screw it, Frank, do whatever the hell you want. I&#039;m sure God will reward you for it.
DIAF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ignore Frank, Puneet. He&#8217;s missed the point. Those that can have to do for those who cannot. If a human can keep another human from wiping out a beneficial species, he should. Frank probably has real estate investments and is so short-sighted that he doesn&#8217;t see the benefits of having big, ugly birds in his subdivision. I bet he thought the Gulf War was a good idea, too. Maybe he should drop some acid. It MIGHT open his eyes, but I doubt it. Who cares where the Center for Bio Diversity came from, the message is sound. Don&#8217;t kill off an endangered species because you feel it&#8217;s your manifest destiny to do so. I GOT IT &#8211; ask a native American what he feels we should do with his land. Wait, there aren&#8217;t any more of them. Screw it, Frank, do whatever the hell you want. I&#8217;m sure God will reward you for it.<br />
DIAF</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Mullany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Mullany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank Benjamin :
&quot;The Center for Bio Diversity is a fringe organization that has now resorted to personal attacks to promote their out-of-touch-with-reality agenda. Talk about wasting resources.&quot;

This sentiment would carry more weight if it wasn&#039;t immediately followed by personal attacks.

Frank Benjamin :
&quot;I feel sorry for anyone who donates their hard earned wages to an organization that is run by a group of former hippies that obviously dropped too much acid back in the day.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank Benjamin :<br />
&#8220;The Center for Bio Diversity is a fringe organization that has now resorted to personal attacks to promote their out-of-touch-with-reality agenda. Talk about wasting resources.&#8221;</p>
<p>This sentiment would carry more weight if it wasn&#8217;t immediately followed by personal attacks.</p>
<p>Frank Benjamin :<br />
&#8220;I feel sorry for anyone who donates their hard earned wages to an organization that is run by a group of former hippies that obviously dropped too much acid back in the day.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Benjamin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Waaahh.....  Humans do have the upper hand you moron.  And where do you live?  Do you flush a toilet?  Do you drive a car?  Do you heat your home?  Why is it that every reputable environmental group has agreed that the Tejon Ranch conservation agreement is good for the environment?  The Center for Bio Diversity is a fringe organization that has now resorted to personal attacks to promote their out-of-touch-with-reality agenda.  Talk about wasting resources.  I feel sorry for anyone who donates their hard earned wages to an organization that is run by a group of former hippies that obviously dropped too much acid back in the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waaahh&#8230;..  Humans do have the upper hand you moron.  And where do you live?  Do you flush a toilet?  Do you drive a car?  Do you heat your home?  Why is it that every reputable environmental group has agreed that the Tejon Ranch conservation agreement is good for the environment?  The Center for Bio Diversity is a fringe organization that has now resorted to personal attacks to promote their out-of-touch-with-reality agenda.  Talk about wasting resources.  I feel sorry for anyone who donates their hard earned wages to an organization that is run by a group of former hippies that obviously dropped too much acid back in the day.</p>
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		<title>By: Puneet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Puneet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because nature has made u capable enough to have an upper hand over other species, doesn&#039;t give you any right to exploit or ignore them. Whatever is your idea of a life, I believe its as pathetic as you, Frank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because nature has made u capable enough to have an upper hand over other species, doesn&#8217;t give you any right to exploit or ignore them. Whatever is your idea of a life, I believe its as pathetic as you, Frank.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Benjamin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big deal!  A fringe eco-terrorist group gives out a nonsensical award.  If it was up to the Center for Bio Diversity, the human race would be living in caves.  Get a life you losers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big deal!  A fringe eco-terrorist group gives out a nonsensical award.  If it was up to the Center for Bio Diversity, the human race would be living in caves.  Get a life you losers!</p>
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