Comments on: Yosemite’s Large Trees See A Decline Of 24% http://ecolocalizer.com/2009/08/10/yosemites-large-trees-see-a-decline-of-24/ News & commentary on sustainability, activism, urban planning, politics, and our world. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:54:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: David http://ecolocalizer.com/2009/08/10/yosemites-large-trees-see-a-decline-of-24/comment-page-1/#comment-60471 David Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:00:32 +0000 http://ecoworldly.com/?p=3616#comment-60471 It is so interesting!!! I've read something of the kind (found at http://filesmixx.com ), but this article made me understand much more! It is so interesting!!! I’ve read something of the kind (found at http://filesmixx.com ), but this article made me understand much more!

]]> By: Mr. Mann http://ecolocalizer.com/2009/08/10/yosemites-large-trees-see-a-decline-of-24/comment-page-1/#comment-60472 Mr. Mann Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:33:54 +0000 http://ecoworldly.com/?p=3616#comment-60472 Don't forget attrition... picture 10,000 trees take 1000 years each to grow... we lose 5 a year to storms and wind... then loggers cut down 9,000 of them... that 5 a year looms a lot larger because it takes 1,000 years to replace them... this is exactly what has happened. Don’t forget attrition… picture 10,000 trees take 1000 years each to grow… we lose 5 a year to storms and wind… then loggers cut down 9,000 of them… that 5 a year looms a lot larger because it takes 1,000 years to replace them… this is exactly what has happened.

]]> By: David http://ecolocalizer.com/2009/08/10/yosemites-large-trees-see-a-decline-of-24/comment-page-1/#comment-60469 David Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:15:47 +0000 http://ecoworldly.com/?p=3616#comment-60469 It’s more than a little strange that a picture from Sequoia National Park is used in an article about Yosemite National Park.. It’s more than a little strange that a picture from Sequoia National Park is used in an article about Yosemite National Park..

]]> By: Bill A http://ecolocalizer.com/2009/08/10/yosemites-large-trees-see-a-decline-of-24/comment-page-1/#comment-60467 Bill A Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:51:01 +0000 http://ecoworldly.com/?p=3616#comment-60467 Historically the people (indigenous and post-indigenous) up there used to do controlled burns every year until they were forced to stop by the forestry service. The burns would clear the dangerous underbrush, promote pine growth, and provide for food (by way of encouraging bigger pine nut harvests and driving game into the clear). No burns means the fire conditions that now plague the USGS and Park Service could result in much hotter fires killing the entire ecosystem there. Locals have been warning them of this exact possibility for decades. Evidence of tribal burning goes way back, far enough back in the historical record to indicated that yearly fires are a part of the local ecosystem, which can have droughts lasting for hundreds of years. It is ironic that the Forestry and Parks Services are only just discovering that their plan to "re-establish the forests" was doing just the opposite by restricting the fall burning. Historically the people (indigenous and post-indigenous) up there used to do controlled burns every year until they were forced to stop by the forestry service. The burns would clear the dangerous underbrush, promote pine growth, and provide for food (by way of encouraging bigger pine nut harvests and driving game into the clear). No burns means the fire conditions that now plague the USGS and Park Service could result in much hotter fires killing the entire ecosystem there. Locals have been warning them of this exact possibility for decades. Evidence of tribal burning goes way back, far enough back in the historical record to indicated that yearly fires are a part of the local ecosystem, which can have droughts lasting for hundreds of years.

It is ironic that the Forestry and Parks Services are only just discovering that their plan to “re-establish the forests” was doing just the opposite by restricting the fall burning.

]]> By: Jerry James Stone http://ecolocalizer.com/2009/08/10/yosemites-large-trees-see-a-decline-of-24/comment-page-1/#comment-60465 Jerry James Stone Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:23:00 +0000 http://ecoworldly.com/?p=3616#comment-60465 @Jon The picture is from Yosemite http://www.image-archeology.com/redwood_tree_ca.htm @Jon
The picture is from Yosemite
http://www.image-archeology.com/redwood_tree_ca.htm

]]> By: Jon http://ecolocalizer.com/2009/08/10/yosemites-large-trees-see-a-decline-of-24/comment-page-1/#comment-60464 Jon Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:34:43 +0000 http://ecoworldly.com/?p=3616#comment-60464 It's more than a little strange that a picture from Sequoia National Park is used in an article about Yosemite National Park. It’s more than a little strange that a picture from Sequoia National Park is used in an article about Yosemite National Park.

]]> By: Jeff http://ecolocalizer.com/2009/08/10/yosemites-large-trees-see-a-decline-of-24/comment-page-1/#comment-60466 Jeff Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:06:57 +0000 http://ecoworldly.com/?p=3616#comment-60466 I'm not an ecologist or naturist, or arborist or any other ist that matters here, but I'm pretty sure that ponderosa pines are fire-tolerant because they require the heat to release their seeds, which require ashen soil (aka newly burnt soil) to germinate and grow, hence the decline in ponderosa pines, secondly I'm pretty sure that fires kill NON-fire tolerant trees, thus areas with less fires SHOULD have more fire INtolerant trees. Hate to go all House MD on everyone, but the pines need fires to clear out the competition and reproduce, and humans STOPPING the aforementioned fires is nothing but a death sentence for a species which is rare and impressive. Solution: LET NATURAL FIRES BURN in Ponderosa forests, not LA (I figured if we didn't get the above, that broad advice could also be misinterpreted) I’m not an ecologist or naturist, or arborist or any other ist that matters here, but I’m pretty sure that ponderosa pines are fire-tolerant because they require the heat to release their seeds, which require ashen soil (aka newly burnt soil) to germinate and grow, hence the decline in ponderosa pines, secondly I’m pretty sure that fires kill NON-fire tolerant trees, thus areas with less fires SHOULD have more fire INtolerant trees. Hate to go all House MD on everyone, but the pines need fires to clear out the competition and reproduce, and humans STOPPING the aforementioned fires is nothing but a death sentence for a species which is rare and impressive. Solution: LET NATURAL FIRES BURN in Ponderosa forests, not LA (I figured if we didn’t get the above, that broad advice could also be misinterpreted)

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]]> By: Nexyoo http://ecolocalizer.com/2009/08/10/yosemites-large-trees-see-a-decline-of-24/comment-page-1/#comment-60468 Nexyoo Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:32:19 +0000 http://ecoworldly.com/?p=3616#comment-60468 I think we will see much more of this as time goes on if we don't all put a step forward to preserving the planet. I think we will see much more of this as time goes on if we don’t all put a step forward to preserving the planet.

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