Comments on: Th!nk! Can This Eco-friendly Car Start an Electronic Revolution? http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/07/09/thnk-can-this-eco-friendly-car-start-an-electronic-revolution/ News & commentary on sustainability, activism, urban planning, politics, and our world. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:54:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Uncle B http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/07/09/thnk-can-this-eco-friendly-car-start-an-electronic-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-56829 Uncle B Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:43:57 +0000 http://ecoworldly.com/?p=1249#comment-56829 If the U.S. had decided to be a moral people, and leaving Iraqi oil alone, and following Al Gore, decided to develop the South Western deserts, with the technology of the times, solar/thermal-molten sodium – electricity installations, for the same amount of money as that war cost, today, we would be tapping into the largest, renewable, sustainable, energy source the world has ever known. It would have paid every energy bill in the U.S.A. for maintenance fees only - FOREVER! It is an oil field that can NEVER run dry! Low cost electric power for all! After the millions of murders, and billions of dollars, borrowed from our children’s futures and spent, with thousands of our own and others maimed and disfigured for life, millions of families utterly destroyed, ours and theirs, we are no closer to Iraqi oil production than the Iraqis are! The next time you hear a blithering idiot spoiled brat, drunken, drug addicted, sociopath, rich, daddie’s, Arabic saber dancing boy, stand at a microphone and threaten YOUR safety with someone ELSE’S weapons, remember what you lost America, remember, and weep! If the U.S. had decided to be a moral people, and leaving Iraqi oil alone, and following Al Gore, decided to develop the South Western deserts, with the technology of the times, solar/thermal-molten sodium – electricity installations, for the same amount of money as that war cost, today, we would be tapping into the largest, renewable, sustainable, energy source the world has ever known. It would have paid every energy bill in the U.S.A. for maintenance fees only – FOREVER! It is an oil field that can NEVER run dry! Low cost electric power for all! After the millions of murders, and billions of dollars, borrowed from our children’s futures and spent, with thousands of our own and others maimed and disfigured for life, millions of families utterly destroyed, ours and theirs, we are no closer to Iraqi oil production than the Iraqis are!
The next time you hear a blithering idiot spoiled brat, drunken, drug addicted, sociopath, rich, daddie’s, Arabic saber dancing boy, stand at a microphone and threaten YOUR safety with someone ELSE’S weapons, remember what you lost America, remember, and weep!

]]> By: a.eye http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/07/09/thnk-can-this-eco-friendly-car-start-an-electronic-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-56830 a.eye Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:31:31 +0000 http://ecoworldly.com/?p=1249#comment-56830 I agree with Phil -- some of these cars have way too many gadgets inside of them. And it's typically not an option to get the car without them. I agree with Phil — some of these cars have way too many gadgets inside of them. And it’s typically not an option to get the car without them.

]]> By: Phil Tkachuk http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/07/09/thnk-can-this-eco-friendly-car-start-an-electronic-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-56828 Phil Tkachuk Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:15:02 +0000 http://ecoworldly.com/?p=1249#comment-56828 Why do car manufacturers insist on putting electronic toys in vehicles. I would buy one in an instant, but the toys should always be options should be able to added later. The toys drive the price to the point it is not affordable for the typical family. I need basic transportation and don't need Air Bags, Anti-lock brakes, anti-theft systems, GPS, On-Star, and so on. In Canada, we need Heaters, and air conditioning is a nice option(but not absolutely necessary), the rest are just gadets. It has become impossible to buy basic transportation. Any idea if this is coming to Canada and what the base cost would be? Why do car manufacturers insist on putting electronic toys in vehicles. I would buy one in an instant, but the toys should always be options should be able to added later. The toys drive the price to the point it is not affordable for the typical family. I need basic transportation and don’t need Air Bags, Anti-lock brakes, anti-theft systems, GPS, On-Star, and so on. In Canada, we need Heaters, and air conditioning is a nice option(but not absolutely necessary), the rest are just gadets. It has become impossible to buy basic transportation. Any idea if this is coming to Canada and what the base cost would be?

]]> By: Duane Hutchison http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/07/09/thnk-can-this-eco-friendly-car-start-an-electronic-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-56827 Duane Hutchison Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:44:34 +0000 http://ecoworldly.com/?p=1249#comment-56827 I would buy an electric car if the price is reasonable. $25K to $30K for what looks like a modified golf cart is not reasonable. I would buy an electric car if the price is reasonable. $25K to $30K for what looks like a modified golf cart is not reasonable.

]]> By: JONO http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/07/09/thnk-can-this-eco-friendly-car-start-an-electronic-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-56826 JONO Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:38:35 +0000 http://ecoworldly.com/?p=1249#comment-56826 We don't have to fight wars to get solar, wind or even coal energy. That makes electric cars worth consideration even if they have a larger carbon footprint than gasoline cars. We don’t have to fight wars to get solar, wind or even coal energy. That makes electric cars worth consideration even if they have a larger carbon footprint than gasoline cars.

]]> By: Guy Anon http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/07/09/thnk-can-this-eco-friendly-car-start-an-electronic-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-56825 Guy Anon Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:43:05 +0000 http://ecoworldly.com/?p=1249#comment-56825 I will buy one (at least), and 2 extra battery packs, with a secondary charger!!! Hopefully they look forward and have cool accessories like that. Ford ain't building my 4 banger twin turbo super diesel with an 8 speed and propane injectors into a small body (ranger, bronco or focus) anytime soon so lets just forget about them! I will buy one (at least), and 2 extra battery packs, with a secondary charger!!! Hopefully they look forward and have cool accessories like that. Ford ain’t building my 4 banger twin turbo super diesel with an 8 speed and propane injectors into a small body (ranger, bronco or focus) anytime soon so lets just forget about them!

]]> By: Nate http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/07/09/thnk-can-this-eco-friendly-car-start-an-electronic-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-56824 Nate Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:05:48 +0000 http://ecoworldly.com/?p=1249#comment-56824 Even if you produce all your electricity with 100% coal power plants, you're still talking about emitting substantially less CO2 than a gasoline engine. http://www.evworld.com/evguide.cfm EmFo apparently doesn't realize that coal-fired plants can't shut down at night, so they have excess capacity. Charging an electric car at night makes use of that energy, smoothing out the demand curve. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_demand EVs are substantially more efficient than gasoline engines, even if they're still powered by fossil fuels. Plug-in Series hybrids are the next evolutionary step, followed by the prevalence of fast chargers, then pure battery-electric vehicles. Only problem is that the oil conglomerate's CEOs won't like it one bit. Even if you produce all your electricity with 100% coal power plants, you’re still talking about emitting substantially less CO2 than a gasoline engine. http://www.evworld.com/evguide.cfm

EmFo apparently doesn’t realize that coal-fired plants can’t shut down at night, so they have excess capacity. Charging an electric car at night makes use of that energy, smoothing out the demand curve. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_demand

EVs are substantially more efficient than gasoline engines, even if they’re still powered by fossil fuels. Plug-in Series hybrids are the next evolutionary step, followed by the prevalence of fast chargers, then pure battery-electric vehicles. Only problem is that the oil conglomerate’s CEOs won’t like it one bit.

]]> By: Chuck http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/07/09/thnk-can-this-eco-friendly-car-start-an-electronic-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-56823 Chuck Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:57:10 +0000 http://ecoworldly.com/?p=1249#comment-56823 I agree with Stuart and Matt. We never think about the source of electricity, how much pollution has the process of electricity generation already caused, even before it reaches the car? You guys look like 'more than' ;-) regular guys, so I'm gonna ask a question. I'm sure most of you would have heard about water4gas and nobody believes it. Just check out the explanation given on this website, it referres to a piece of research done at MIT. They say, hydrogen gotten by electrolysis of water cannot be giving the energy, but instead hydrogen combusts easily and quickly and this improves the combustion environment inside the engine so that gasoline burn rate is improved. I don't know how good I was in explaining that, but this website does a pretty good job, check out http://water4gasscam.bestdealsreviews.com/hydrogen_cars.html and please post your comments here. Cheers! I agree with Stuart and Matt. We never think about the source of electricity, how much pollution has the process of electricity generation already caused, even before it reaches the car? You guys look like ‘more than’ ;-) regular guys, so I’m gonna ask a question. I’m sure most of you would have heard about water4gas and nobody believes it. Just check out the explanation given on this website, it referres to a piece of research done at MIT. They say, hydrogen gotten by electrolysis of water cannot be giving the energy, but instead hydrogen combusts easily and quickly and this improves the combustion environment inside the engine so that gasoline burn rate is improved. I don’t know how good I was in explaining that, but this website does a pretty good job, check out http://water4gasscam.bestdealsreviews.com/hydrogen_cars.html and please post your comments here. Cheers!

]]> By: otto http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/07/09/thnk-can-this-eco-friendly-car-start-an-electronic-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-56822 otto Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:06:54 +0000 http://ecoworldly.com/?p=1249#comment-56822 "No revolution they cost over $30,000.00. Unless you can get a car like this for under $15,000.00 no one in America will but it, at least not in any revolutionary numbers." Are you kidding? 30K, with never having to buy gas again? I'd eat it up. Charge it overnight when electric rates are lower, we make our own power during the day with our solar panels on the roof.... Sign me up! “No revolution they cost over $30,000.00. Unless you can get a car like this for under $15,000.00 no one in America will but it, at least not in any revolutionary numbers.”
Are you kidding? 30K, with never having to buy gas again? I’d eat it up. Charge it overnight when electric rates are lower, we make our own power during the day with our solar panels on the roof….
Sign me up!

]]> By: YK http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/07/09/thnk-can-this-eco-friendly-car-start-an-electronic-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-56821 YK Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:28:48 +0000 http://ecoworldly.com/?p=1249#comment-56821 What is the cost of recharging the battery overnight? How much electricity is required every night to charge the battery? What is the cost of recharging the battery overnight? How much electricity is required every night to charge the battery?

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