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	<title>Comments on: Hawaii Contemplates Dumping Trash In Oregon</title>
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		<title>By: Uncle B</title>
		<link>http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/06/25/hawaii-contemplates-dumping-trash-in-oregon/comment-page-1/#comment-45500</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is affluenza! The cure? A larger share of the very finite world&#039;s resources are going to Asian Empire now that the weakest on record U.S.dollar can no longer command 80% of worlds resources, stronger Chinese Yuan can! Soon as Americans are cut back to Third World status - in the next decade, the garbage will disappear, and the scavenging poor will take care of any left over! In the next natural downturn of their economy, in the next natural, normal, down cycle, Americans will face their &quot;comeuppance&quot; for years of squandering resources, and see a crashing dollar, and dying nation! The inflation next decade , caused by this decade&#039;s money printing free for all, will come home to roost! and Yankee Doodle will pay dearly for extravagances of the past!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is affluenza! The cure? A larger share of the very finite world&#8217;s resources are going to Asian Empire now that the weakest on record U.S.dollar can no longer command 80% of worlds resources, stronger Chinese Yuan can! Soon as Americans are cut back to Third World status &#8211; in the next decade, the garbage will disappear, and the scavenging poor will take care of any left over! In the next natural downturn of their economy, in the next natural, normal, down cycle, Americans will face their &#8220;comeuppance&#8221; for years of squandering resources, and see a crashing dollar, and dying nation! The inflation next decade , caused by this decade&#8217;s money printing free for all, will come home to roost! and Yankee Doodle will pay dearly for extravagances of the past!</p>
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		<title>By: russ</title>
		<link>http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/06/25/hawaii-contemplates-dumping-trash-in-oregon/comment-page-1/#comment-12691</link>
		<dc:creator>russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 08:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plasma gasification?

Have you seen the energy balance on that?

I have studied it for industrial use and it died a natural death.

The one use that I did see was for solidification of nuclear waste where energy input is secondary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plasma gasification?</p>
<p>Have you seen the energy balance on that?</p>
<p>I have studied it for industrial use and it died a natural death.</p>
<p>The one use that I did see was for solidification of nuclear waste where energy input is secondary.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/06/25/hawaii-contemplates-dumping-trash-in-oregon/comment-page-1/#comment-9065</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>trash 2 cash is a profitable thing. If the emissions meet or beat the set standards, then what&#039;s the beef? This type of forward thinking will drive innovative people to develope better emission control systems which will in turn drive more innovation to improve air quality in various areas and industry segments. I know because we are one. Patented and R&amp;D completed on an exhaust purifier that is installed on the incinerator&#039;s tail end. This is the answer to landfilling and lower cost energy supply in one system w/o befouling our air. We need to include the trash haulers in on this or it will never go. This is big business and you wouldn&#039;t want to step on the wrong toes, they&#039;re connected to a 500 pound gorilla that is politically CONNECTED. It may be the only way for this to happen in a meaningful way (nationally) is for all the players to profit from it, so we may not end up saving money but THEY MAY LET US SAVE OUR ENVIRONMENT. We need to serve it up to them on a silver platter. This is better and way less expensive than plasma arc gasification. It can be scaled up or down to fit the application, regionally specific to local resources- wood*coal*trash*tires*diesel(dirty) fuel,etc... LIGHT IT, DON&#039;T HIDE IT! Portland, Oregon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>trash 2 cash is a profitable thing. If the emissions meet or beat the set standards, then what&#8217;s the beef? This type of forward thinking will drive innovative people to develope better emission control systems which will in turn drive more innovation to improve air quality in various areas and industry segments. I know because we are one. Patented and R&amp;D completed on an exhaust purifier that is installed on the incinerator&#8217;s tail end. This is the answer to landfilling and lower cost energy supply in one system w/o befouling our air. We need to include the trash haulers in on this or it will never go. This is big business and you wouldn&#8217;t want to step on the wrong toes, they&#8217;re connected to a 500 pound gorilla that is politically CONNECTED. It may be the only way for this to happen in a meaningful way (nationally) is for all the players to profit from it, so we may not end up saving money but THEY MAY LET US SAVE OUR ENVIRONMENT. We need to serve it up to them on a silver platter. This is better and way less expensive than plasma arc gasification. It can be scaled up or down to fit the application, regionally specific to local resources- wood*coal*trash*tires*diesel(dirty) fuel,etc&#8230; LIGHT IT, DON&#8217;T HIDE IT! Portland, Oregon.</p>
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		<title>By: Enviornment Quiz</title>
		<link>http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/06/25/hawaii-contemplates-dumping-trash-in-oregon/comment-page-1/#comment-497</link>
		<dc:creator>Enviornment Quiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 06:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disgusting.Really disgusting states which takes so much care about their environment are forced to act as a dumping ground for the waste.These problems must be addressed at higher levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disgusting.Really disgusting states which takes so much care about their environment are forced to act as a dumping ground for the waste.These problems must be addressed at higher levels.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/06/25/hawaii-contemplates-dumping-trash-in-oregon/comment-page-1/#comment-485</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 11:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live on Oahu.  We are starting curb side recycling.  Just taking our sweet time setting it up.  Where are we going to ship our recyclables?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live on Oahu.  We are starting curb side recycling.  Just taking our sweet time setting it up.  Where are we going to ship our recyclables?</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/06/25/hawaii-contemplates-dumping-trash-in-oregon/comment-page-1/#comment-481</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This would be the worst idea to hit the world since slicing bread long-ways. Why would you ship trash across the ocean? This is a triple waste... why are humans so short sighted?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would be the worst idea to hit the world since slicing bread long-ways. Why would you ship trash across the ocean? This is a triple waste&#8230; why are humans so short sighted?</p>
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		<title>By: Dancing Raven</title>
		<link>http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/06/25/hawaii-contemplates-dumping-trash-in-oregon/comment-page-1/#comment-476</link>
		<dc:creator>Dancing Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Hawaii and find this absolutely unacceptable. Hawaii is one of the dirtiest states I&#039;ve ever lived in as I grew up in Oregon. 

Although there is a recycling effort here it is not enough because tourism is too much for the Islands to handle. We need to come up with a better solution not only is the garbage bad but most of the coral reefs are dead around all the population bases and now DNR is using injection wells. Meaning the waste water is being injected into the ground which eventually ends up at the ocean so now the ocean is still getting the toxic side affect. We are killing the Mother Earth.

Tourist, especially time share owners love box stores. They over buy and leave all the waste here not the least bit concerned about the impact. It is very sad.  Local people are catching on but very, very slowly. 

Please Oregonians say NO.  

Raven</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Hawaii and find this absolutely unacceptable. Hawaii is one of the dirtiest states I&#8217;ve ever lived in as I grew up in Oregon. </p>
<p>Although there is a recycling effort here it is not enough because tourism is too much for the Islands to handle. We need to come up with a better solution not only is the garbage bad but most of the coral reefs are dead around all the population bases and now DNR is using injection wells. Meaning the waste water is being injected into the ground which eventually ends up at the ocean so now the ocean is still getting the toxic side affect. We are killing the Mother Earth.</p>
<p>Tourist, especially time share owners love box stores. They over buy and leave all the waste here not the least bit concerned about the impact. It is very sad.  Local people are catching on but very, very slowly. </p>
<p>Please Oregonians say NO.  </p>
<p>Raven</p>
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		<title>By: ryusen</title>
		<link>http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/06/25/hawaii-contemplates-dumping-trash-in-oregon/comment-page-1/#comment-473</link>
		<dc:creator>ryusen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 06:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicholas Cloutier: Plasma Gasification is not mature enough to work on a scale we are talking about.  There isn&#039;t even a working model for any municipality that is comprable.  I do agree with the corrupt politicians part.  If they didn&#039;t cave in to special interests and just expanded the current landfill, we wouldn&#039;t need to pay all the $$ to ship it off.

StephenH: &quot;Too bad?&quot;  This isn&#039;t like Hawaii begged Oregon for assistance.  There was a request for bids and Oregon placed a bid for the business.  If you don&#039;t want it, tell your politicians to stop it.  Of course that&#039;s a loss of $$ for you.  As for the Oil to ship it, that&#039;s not an issue.  There are already boats coming to Hawaii and going back empty.  This just utilized those empty trips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicholas Cloutier: Plasma Gasification is not mature enough to work on a scale we are talking about.  There isn&#8217;t even a working model for any municipality that is comprable.  I do agree with the corrupt politicians part.  If they didn&#8217;t cave in to special interests and just expanded the current landfill, we wouldn&#8217;t need to pay all the $$ to ship it off.</p>
<p>StephenH: &#8220;Too bad?&#8221;  This isn&#8217;t like Hawaii begged Oregon for assistance.  There was a request for bids and Oregon placed a bid for the business.  If you don&#8217;t want it, tell your politicians to stop it.  Of course that&#8217;s a loss of $$ for you.  As for the Oil to ship it, that&#8217;s not an issue.  There are already boats coming to Hawaii and going back empty.  This just utilized those empty trips.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 05:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Hawaii, on the Big Island to be exact, and contrary to beliefs we do have many recycling centers set up.  I live on an island where recycling has become a way of life for many, to save the islands beauty and at the same time, getting some money back doesn&#039;t hurt either.  We get charged extra when we buy drinks in bottles and cans to encourage use to recycle, that&#039;s when we get that money back.  Of course not everyone will recycle, but I think most people are a little more cautious about the way it helps.  This is the first time I&#039;ve heard of this news.  Maybe the state is considering this as one of our trash solutions since many of our landfills are being filled.  We are islands and don&#039;t have as much space as the continental U.S.  The state is always looking for solutions for this ongoing problem.  Who knows if this might be the actual solution that goes through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Hawaii, on the Big Island to be exact, and contrary to beliefs we do have many recycling centers set up.  I live on an island where recycling has become a way of life for many, to save the islands beauty and at the same time, getting some money back doesn&#8217;t hurt either.  We get charged extra when we buy drinks in bottles and cans to encourage use to recycle, that&#8217;s when we get that money back.  Of course not everyone will recycle, but I think most people are a little more cautious about the way it helps.  This is the first time I&#8217;ve heard of this news.  Maybe the state is considering this as one of our trash solutions since many of our landfills are being filled.  We are islands and don&#8217;t have as much space as the continental U.S.  The state is always looking for solutions for this ongoing problem.  Who knows if this might be the actual solution that goes through.</p>
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		<title>By: Web Design Company</title>
		<link>http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/06/25/hawaii-contemplates-dumping-trash-in-oregon/comment-page-1/#comment-471</link>
		<dc:creator>Web Design Company</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most people will agree that Oregon will get paid a hefty amount to take trash in.  That&#039;s big business for them.  They are going to worry, they already have regulations on how waste gets handled.  They have a long list of restrictions to protect the environment, I&#039;m sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people will agree that Oregon will get paid a hefty amount to take trash in.  That&#8217;s big business for them.  They are going to worry, they already have regulations on how waste gets handled.  They have a long list of restrictions to protect the environment, I&#8217;m sure.</p>
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