Comments on: Sweden to Harness Body Heat of Commuters http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/01/14/sweden-to-harness-body-heat-of-commuters/ News & commentary on sustainability, activism, urban planning, politics, and our world. Tue, 22 May 2012 15:40:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Uncle B http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/01/14/sweden-to-harness-body-heat-of-commuters/comment-page-1/#comment-55118 Uncle B Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:34:49 +0000 http://ecoworldly.com/2008/01/14/sweden-to-harness-body-heat-of-commuters/#comment-55118 Highest Efficiency, low power consumption heat exchange devices, combined with super-insulations, can make a better world for all! Survivalist designs replacing the extravaganzas of the past will also reign in power consumption, stop wasting. and eventually if we are diligent we will arrive closer to sustainablity than ever before! Corporatist interests fight against this in dishonest fashion, every one must see the movie "Who Killed The Electric Car" to realize how really corrupt Corporatist forces are! ( Google it Free on net!) Then see the movie "Chernobyl" to understand how gullible we are, then look to welcoming change, immense paradigm shifts driven by the Asian Fact, and our dying economy, falling dollar, rising price of oil, even Gold is at world wide all time highs and rising daily! Something is afoot! Sweden, Norway even bio-gas their sewage, as does San Antonio Texas, the one inspiration and hopeful light in America, The world is going through a belt-tightening exercise in anticipation of the Great Crash occurring in controlled fashion in America today. Time now, for Americans to take hold and get sustainable on a very personal level while they can! Don't you dare buy that great V-8 engined SUV! gas promises, with Asian competition for it, to go up not down! Get off the high meat diet, get used to more veggies! Soon,when the Factory Farms face Capital flight to greener fields in Asia and higher oil costs cutting into ROI, meat will get much more expensive if at all available! The countries industries are closing down, lacking Capital to continue, and we are broke! Too broke to survive very long at our high consumption levels! We need all buildings in America to be sustainable, heated and cooled by skill rather than brute force HIVAC systems as we now have! The Swedes got this one right! Highest Efficiency, low power consumption heat exchange devices, combined with super-insulations, can make a better world for all! Survivalist designs replacing the extravaganzas of the past will also reign in power consumption, stop wasting. and eventually if we are diligent we will arrive closer to sustainablity than ever before! Corporatist interests fight against this in dishonest fashion, every one must see the movie “Who Killed The Electric Car” to realize how really corrupt Corporatist forces are! ( Google it Free on net!) Then see the movie “Chernobyl” to understand how gullible we are, then look to welcoming change, immense paradigm shifts driven by the Asian Fact, and our dying economy, falling dollar, rising price of oil, even Gold is at world wide all time highs and rising daily! Something is afoot! Sweden, Norway even bio-gas their sewage, as does San Antonio Texas, the one inspiration and hopeful light in America, The world is going through a belt-tightening exercise in anticipation of the Great Crash occurring in controlled fashion in America today. Time now, for Americans to take hold and get sustainable on a very personal level while they can! Don’t you dare buy that great V-8 engined SUV! gas promises, with Asian competition for it, to go up not down! Get off the high meat diet, get used to more veggies! Soon,when the Factory Farms face Capital flight to greener fields in Asia and higher oil costs cutting into ROI, meat will get much more expensive if at all available! The countries industries are closing down, lacking Capital to continue, and we are broke! Too broke to survive very long at our high consumption levels! We need all buildings in America to be sustainable, heated and cooled by skill rather than brute force HIVAC systems as we now have! The Swedes got this one right!

]]> By: Tim http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/01/14/sweden-to-harness-body-heat-of-commuters/comment-page-1/#comment-55115 Tim Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:17:55 +0000 http://ecoworldly.com/2008/01/14/sweden-to-harness-body-heat-of-commuters/#comment-55115 The novelty is actually piping that heat to use elsewhere. Many malls use the same concept for heating but that is simply trapping the heat in the same place. So I do think the Swedish application is quite new. The novelty is actually piping that heat to use elsewhere.

Many malls use the same concept for heating but that is simply trapping the heat in the same place. So I do think the Swedish application is quite new.

]]> By: Pem Charnley http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/01/14/sweden-to-harness-body-heat-of-commuters/comment-page-1/#comment-55116 Pem Charnley Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:11:03 +0000 http://ecoworldly.com/2008/01/14/sweden-to-harness-body-heat-of-commuters/#comment-55116 Topher, thanks for that. Mr Sundholm in The Local is quoted as saying: "This is old technology, but used in a new way. It's just pipes, water and pumps, but we haven't heard of anyone else using this technology in this way before." A quick search revealed the following on Wikipedia regarding the Mall of America: Heat is produced by lighting fixtures, other electric devices and also by employees and guests of the mall in sufficient amounts to keep it comfortable. An enlightening comment and I stand corrected. We need more stories such as this Stockholm one and as you rightly say, the Mall of America one. Such a clever, yet simple, use of incidental heat gain. Topher, thanks for that. Mr Sundholm in The Local is quoted as saying:

“This is old technology, but used in a new way. It’s just pipes, water and pumps, but we haven’t heard of anyone else using this technology in this way before.”

A quick search revealed the following on Wikipedia regarding the Mall of America:

Heat is produced by lighting fixtures, other electric devices and also by employees and guests of the mall in sufficient amounts to keep it comfortable.

An enlightening comment and I stand corrected.

We need more stories such as this Stockholm one and as you rightly say, the Mall of America one. Such a clever, yet simple, use of incidental heat gain.

]]> By: Topher http://ecolocalizer.com/2008/01/14/sweden-to-harness-body-heat-of-commuters/comment-page-1/#comment-55117 Topher Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:32:20 +0000 http://ecoworldly.com/2008/01/14/sweden-to-harness-body-heat-of-commuters/#comment-55117 This isn't anything new. The Mall of America near Minneapolis, Minnesota is heated on the very same principle. This isn’t anything new. The Mall of America near Minneapolis, Minnesota is heated on the very same principle.

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